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  1. Hunt prehistoric creatures with your friends online. Build your own base, craft tools, and weapons to survive in a large-scale true cross-platform open world game. This game is an application of the engine I’ve built, to prove a statement: It is POSSIBLE to build a 3D version of the Internet, where instead of browsing through websites, we could jump from one 3D space to the next. I “invite” everyone to make this happen. I want you guys to build your own 3D spaces implementing your own ideas what the web should look like in the future. We could just link them all together and make this Interconnected Virtual Space happen - yeah, the Metaverse, for the Snow Crash fans out there Tech Details that I hope provokes further questions: Loading Assets on Demand is even more important in the Browser than on PC or Console. Internet speed is only a fraction of the speed of the hard drive. It is essential to only load whats visible if you want to provide an open world environment for users visiting your world the first time. LOD - Level of Details allows Web Browsers to show something immediately for the users just like an ordinary website. It may look poor and users can see the object improving as they are loaded, still, I think its a good trade-off. Users get a good enough view of their environment instantly and can start interacting with it immediately. Terrain and the Grid System I’ve created the terrain in Blender, then I split it up like a chessboard automatically using Javascript. It is easy/cheap to determine that which cell contains the given coordinate and every single cell in the Grid has a reference to its neighbors. This is the basis of server layers of optimization when it comes to rendering, AI, and collision detection, etc. A recursive search is very easy to do, using those links to neighboring cells. Lighting I've implanted basic Directional and Ambient Lighting to support Day & Night Cycles and Point Lighting for individual light sources like a campfire, torch etc. To my surprise, the difficult part was to get good looking flames, thanks to the lack of Alpha Sorting in WebGL, what I had to implement in Javascript instead. Animation I animate my models in Blender, export them to “.dae". The file format comes with a serious limitation, you can’t define multiple animations and it only maintains a list of keyframes as references. So I maintain a JSON file per “.dae” to define multiple animations by having sets of keyframes. E.g.: “{running: [0, 4], jump: [5,7], ..}”. But I kept it simple and didn’t take it to the realm of animations per body part. Physics In short, I was stupid enough to write my own ..on the other hand, I have a fine level of control over how much I allow it to run. Again, on mobile, it is crucial to have that level of control to navigate 200+ creatures in real-time. I have two different type of Collision Detection. Collision with the Terrain and collision with other model surfaces. Terrain collision is very cheap, this allows me to move so many NPC at once. Collision with other models is heavier though, but that allows me to climb random looking rocks. I optimized it enough to make it feasible to run on mobile devices. I use a low poly version of the models to determine the collision and I only run it for the models near the Player, utilizing the Grid System I mentioned above. AI NPCs can navigate a random terrain, avoid obstacles and “see” and “hear” other NPCs if behind them. At the moment, they move rather robotically, but this allows me to calculate, where they can move next without hitting any obstacles and how long it will take to get there. I only run the AI right before they get to the target location. Basically, 200+ NPCs make only 40-100 AI calls per second. ..I certainly have room for improvement here Multithreading in the browser is difficult but necessary to achieve good Frame Rate. Nothing but the rendering should be on the main thread ideally - Good luck to achieve it though I’ve managed to push most of the heavy logic into a speared thread, but AI is still running on the main one. In a thread you have very limited access to important functionalities of the browser, therefore, there is only so much you can do. Also, specific objects can only be passed by reference between threads, everything else has to be serialized on one end and deserialized on the other. You want to be careful how often you do it. Audio I use the Web Audio API that works as expected. On top of that, I implemented Audio Sprites: I compile all related sounds to a single mp3 file and that comes with a JSON object to define where certain audio snippets can be found. It's a fast, accurate and reliable solution unlike using Audio HTML Tag, but that one has its own use cases as well, e.g.: streaming an mp3 file comes for free, like streaming an internet radio station. Multiplayer - I use WebRTC and not WebSockets - I know, I know, hear me out. The idea was that COOP is a very likely scenario and players may only prefer the company of their friends. I that case, they don’t have to purchase access to a private server, as long as they are happy to let their world go dormant between gaming sessions. Plus, all the logic is implemented for single player mode on the client-side, which logic has to be duplicated on the servers, if I went down the WebSockets rout - just think about where the AI logic should be, server- or client side. I expect this one to be a controversial decision, ..sometimes even I'm not sure whether this was the “right" decision There is a whole lot more to this though. Resources could be distributed between players when it comes to AI to ease the load on the Host - I know it is a potential security issue, but there is a use case for it, like AI for distant NPCs in COOP as long as you have no hacker friends ..this could be crucial on mobile devices. Controller Support The Gamepad API provides you with raw access to every button and joystick. You certainly have to implement your own layer on top of that. Events for pressing/holding down buttons don't come out of the box. Implementation of the dead zone of joysticks is missing and it is inconsistent how you can access different types of controllers through the API, even the same controller but on different devices. In the end, you will have to provide a controller mapping implementation as well in your settings. But its totally doable and works like a charm. Touchscreen Support It's a tricky one. As I mentioned above, on iPhones its completely useless till Apple decides to comply with Web Standards. Even on Android, it is a bit tricky: For the UI you probably want to use HTML. It makes sense because it comes with all the neat features that make our lives easier until you realize that you can’t switch between weapons while running - wait, what? You see, while you are holding down the left side of the screen to maintain speed and try to click on a button, or any HTML element to switch weapons, the click event won’t fire. No click event will be fired while doing multi-touching. As a result, HTML and any fancy framework for that matter are no longer good enough solution own their own. UI When it comes to games we expect a whole lot more from the UI than on a website. Multi-touch support - as discussed above and even controller support is not as straightforward as you might think. You have raw access to the controller, so when a button is selected and the user pushes the joystick diagonally upward, you have no idea what is in that direction, therefore what should be selected next. You have to implement the navigation of your UI with a controller for yourself. And you need controller support because that's the only way to move around in VR and on consoles. Speaking of VR, you want to render your UI twice in VR - once for the right eye and once for the left eye - and only once when not in VR, just something to keep in mind Also, rendering the UI could be heavy. This might be a surprise but if you think about it, on a website you don’t do anything but the UI, so you have a lot mere leeway to work with, whereas in a game you don’t want the UI to impact the Frame Rate, so it has to be very lightweight and probably you want Scheduling to have a final say on what gets refreshed. Taking all this into account, I really don’t see how any framework could be a good option - they were simply designed with different requirements in mind and there is more downside to using any of them than upside. Precomputed Scene Occlusion Culling using a Grid System Most of the optimization is happening real-time or triggered on a regular basis while running the game with one exception: I render every cell in the Grid System from the point of view of every single other Cell. E.g.: Cell A can see cell B and C but not D. I literally diff two images with javascript to determine whether the given cube can be seen or not. Then I record the results in a JSON file, which is used for rendering. This reduces the number of cubes to be rendered significantly, but it takes about 40 hours to run this optimization for the whole terrain. Running the game on Mobile Devices iPhone runs WebGL significantly better than top-end Android devices but practically useless because Apple ignores important web standards. E.g.: Pinch zoom can’t be blocked, therefore when you use your left thumb to move around and right thumb to look around, instead of doing so you end up zooming back and forth the screen. It also doesn't support fullscreen mode - video does, but not the canvas element. Another interesting limitation on iPhone is that you can only have 25 elements in an array in GLSL, which translates to having only 25 bones in an animated model. This doesn't make animation impossible, but you can’t use most animated models that you buy in the stores, you have to do it again with only 25 bones. Profiling “What gets measured, gets managed”. The built-in profiler in Chrome certainly has its use-case, but not good enough for what we want, so probably you will have to build your own at some point with specific features. You want to know how long a certain section of your game runs per frame, e.g.: Rendering, AI, Physics, etc. and probably these sections won’t run sequentially, but they are interrupted by other processes that you don’t want to include into the specific measurement. One thing is for sure, you cant do optimization without identifying the source of the lags. - I've certainly wasted enough time trying Scheduling As long as you are pushing the limits of the devices it is always a battle for a smooth frame rate. Therefore, you have to implement a scheduling system to manage what is allowed to run and for how long. E.g.: whatever is loaded and processed in the background will have an effect on the frame rate even if it is running on a different thread, you want to throttle that. You don’t want to set variables through WebGL API unnecessarily. AI always varies how much calculations it has to do depending on the number of unique encounters of 200+ NPCs in a random environment. Basically, you will have to limit what runs and how long, manage what is a nice to have calculation and a game-breaking one and try to make it seamless for the user. Probably every single topic above deserves a dedicated post, so please feel free to ask anything - there is no stupid question - then I would like to use those questions to write an in-depth post on every single topic that helps fellow devs to overcome similar obstacles - no doubt I will learn a thing or two in the process Live Tech Demo is available on
  2. Hey everyone! Sam from Bitfox Games here for our studios' first post (and definitely not last!). I'm here to introduce our inaugural game release (well, it's been out for a couple of months now ). ( AKA Battle Royale: Unsung Heroes is a multiplayer 2d battle royale shooter. It features over a dozen different weapons, a 2d pseudo-isometric perspective, and a massive map. Gameplay consist of, well, trying to be the last person standing! Scrounge for weapons, healing items, weapon attachments & scopes. If you die early in a match, you can spectate the remainder of the round as a ghost, or queue for another server immediately. In order to survive, you have to outsmart your opponents! Since launch we've seen millions of rounds of battle royale played, and many other fun stats viewable on our website. We used PIXI for our visuals, Nengi.js + Node for our networking layer (and some client-side niceties that the library, and developer @timetocode, provides - he's actually a part of our team and actively works on If anyone has any questions about the way we've implemented anything, please don't hesitate to ask! Additionally, we would love feedback from other HTML5 game developers. There are bugs; but if you find any, let me know! There's a chance it's not already in our bug tracker. Some features that are on our near-future roadmap are: - Teams Mode (squads & duos) - Grenades - Two weapon slots Always open to more suggestions as well
  3. Hi everyone! After one year and a half of hard work, I finally have the great pleasure of introducing my game, On the Way to Nemroth (OWN)! OWN is a deathmatch game in 1v1, 2v2 and 3v3 with fast-paced games under 3min. Gameplay-wise, it's a crossover between MOBAs (you control one hero with a limited skillset) and Brawlers (maps are small, action pretty intense). You can watch the trailer here : The competitive side has been polished, (league system, no random mechanics, depth of gameplay etc.), but you can also play casually in normal or private games. Because games are super short, you can use OWN to fill in idle times (like a League of Legends matchmaking, for example) or you can play more seriously and try to rank up the ladder. Money-wise OWN is 100% free-to-play, 0% pay-to-win and contains no ad. It's pay-to-customize. You will have all heroes for free, and you will win virtual currency and chests as you play. By the way, I've created a promo code which will unlock you 1000 gold coins at registration : PHASER ! And with registration also comes a free legendary chest! Regarding the technologies, OWN uses Phaser and Node for the pvp games, and React for the social part. But enough talking, here are the important links : The game HERE ! Testing the game without registering HERE ! Don't forget to follow us on social medias : Facebook Twitter Youtube Discord
  4. Hello All! We just launched open beta version of our multiplayer dice game Phone Dice and would love to share this with the community. This is an adaptation of the street version of the dice game "Craps", more commonly known as "Street Craps" or "Street Dice". Users can play both in solo and multiplayer modes, using in game money that can be won in bonus rolls, solo play rolls or against other people live. In case one ends up without any in game cash, there is the opportunity to buy from the in app store. The game rules are based on street dice which are as follows : Solo Play: 1) Bet money 2) 1sth throw: with 7 or 11 you win the money, with 2,3 or 12 you lose the money, the rest (4,5,6,7,8,10) become the point. 3) After the first throw, the roller keeps shooting until either the point or a 7 is rolled. The point is the winning roll, and 7 is the losing number (since 7 is the number that can be rolled with the most available combinations). Online Play: 1) Rules are same like solo play with the difference that both players shoot dice in the beginning with the highest scorer becoming the roller. The game was built using HTML, CSS and JS all the way. Phone Dice Google Play Link Note: We decided for this week to only distribute on android. We will be up in the App Store soon. Thank you!
  5. A nice JavaScript canvas 3d dice class A pure canvas 3d Rolling dice has been released today by me. It has Object Oriented JavaScript Class. It can take images for each side and a number on which it has to stop. Have a look at it and grab your copy here Thank you Have fun with games
  6. Hi Everybody, I'm posting to promote my new multiplayer puzzle game. It's made in html5 , pixijs,vuejs,cordova for mobile integration and nodejs to power backend apis. you can play it online starting from the website: (where you can find detailed rules and FAQs) or on your android device: Single player mode is made of packs of puzzles (colled tori) and provides realtime ranking for both single packs and overall results Multiplayer mode is made up of tournaments, hundreds daily, where you can play using virtual coins gained in unlocking singleplayer scenarios. here some screenshots collage: here you can see a trailer I hope to have some honest feedback thanks everybody!
  7. Hi everyone! I have one question.. Do you like tanks ?! Recently we released beta version of our small multiplayer game called DatTank! And you are right, it's all about tanks Come and check! Tell us what do you thing about it.
  8. Corey Van Hoosen

    Monarchies of Wax and Honey Take on the role of a queen honey bee looking to build a hive. She can start and build a colony by birthing workers and setting their tasks. Workers can forage flowers for nectar and pollen, nurse the brood, build new hive cells, and defend the hive from wasps and other players. How to Play Press and hold where you want to go , and the queen bee will head there. Place a hive with the 'new hive' button to place new hive cells. Press a nearby hive cell to select it. Place eggs there with the 'lay egg' button. Press one of your own workers to select them. Choose their job from the buttons below them. Foragers gather pollen and bring it to empty hive cells. Nurses bring collected pollen to your larvae ( which then become pupae before finally birthing as new workers ), and builders eat honey and build new hive cells. Press 'attack' to toggle alarm pheromones in your workers. They will attack wasps, the nearest enemy bees, and player queens. Work In Progress The game is still in active development, bugs continue to be found and patched, and feedback on ways to improve the game is very welcome. Planned Features In-game tutorial Social logins and player accounts. Earn honey to unlock new bees and abilities. Sound & music Skeletal animation Where to Play Download the game through the Play Store, or on
  9. Agreda007

    Server game programing

    Hello guys, i'm new on this page, and need some help with coding the server of a multiplayer online game (one like ), so i started doing the server with socket using the tcp protocol, but i don't feel that is the right way, if someone know's about directions or a book on handling multiplayer connections, streams, good practives on creating players objects, no matter if i code a small server but i want to do it right. I hope i can get my answer and help others in their problems. sorry for my bad english . have a good day.
  10. Hi I have just created a beginner's course on babylonJs on udemy named "Single & Multiplayer Game Development in Webgl's BabylonJs" I took permission from @Deltakosh to post the link on the forums Here you go ! Any comments are much appreciated, Thanks ! Ahmed
  11. Impossible Snake is a game I've been working on (see posts here and here) and it's now available on the Android playstore. Impossible Snake on Coolmath Games: Impossible Snake on Android Store: Impossible Snake on kongregate - Impossible Snake on newgrounds - It is a one-button game, meaning that you control the snake with only single taps on the screen. Every time you tap the snake will toggle between turning clockwise and counter-clockwise. Eat all apples to complete a level, the last three levels are almost impossible.. almost. There is also a VS multiplayer mode, where 2 players can compete on the same device. Player one taps on the top half and player two taps on the bottom half to control their snake. Eat the most apples to win.
  12. is a fast paced, 2D multiplayer shooter inspired by games like Soldat, Unreal Tournament and N-game. Currently implemented game modes include Capture the Flag and Deathmatch. It uses the Box2D physics engine to enable convincing rigid body simulation. Players can make various moves including backflips, rolls, proning, running, flying and crouching. The game is still under active development and I'm willing to devote a great deal of time to finishing this project. I've made a test server available and you can join it by following these steps: - Go to - Play as Guest - Enter a username - Join CTF or Deathmatch. - Select primary and/or secondary weapon Press H to display table of controls. Decrease the size of the browser window in case it runs slow. I've noticed that some laptops and older systems have trouble maintaining adequate fps. It is currently not possible to register a username, but I've been making progress on an account and highscore system. The game server is currently located in Europe. I plan on running additional servers on other continents and for the site to serve as a gateway to the nearest game server when players join in order to minimize latency. Any thoughts, feedback or suggestions would be much appreciated! Thanks. Edit - 15-12-2017: New version! Sound effects have finally been added, weapons & items have been updated & tweaked, libraries have been updated and many improvements have been made along with numerous bugfixes. I'm currently finishing the implementation of the account system and I'm working on several new maps. More updates will follow soon!
  13. Hello, I'm a web programmer with 3 years of experience (currently a senior developer). I've always been a fan of videogames and now I'm starting learning game development just for fun. Like in any type of development , you always face problems and learn of those. Sharing is the strongest tool to learn, you help other people to prevent/fix mistakes and they help you. What am I looking for?: People like me that is learning to develop games and want to meet other people to make games with them, share experiences, ask&answer questions. How will we organize? I have experience managing large Telegram groups and also creating bots for groups. It is a good starting point since most of the people always carry the phone everywhere and also has a web/desktop application, also Telegram offers us a direct communication without compromising your privacy (you don't need to give real info or phone number to the rest of the group). If we start growing, we can just move to another platform you want (Discord, Slack, whatever is of your preference). Do you have any project scheduled? Yes, I want to build a fun roguelike, here is my current roadmap of the game: I am an artist, can I join? Sure! I'm sure you can learn from us and we can learn from you, Keep in mind that sound artists, level designers, programmers.. work together and they need to understand all the other positions to work properly. Of course this is a flexible diagram, I don't do this as my job and I don't have any deadlines, creating a roadmap just helps me with organization so I don't start wrongly (which with end even worse :P). Have in mind that my only goal is just learning, I'm not in a rush to make money or finding a job Just feel free to contact me if you want to join or if you doesn't like something of my post.
  14. I am working on a multiplayer real-time strategy game. This game focuses on the core of real-time strategy, forgoing resource gathering, base building and unit types. You can play the game on The simplicity and comprehensive tutorial make it easy to jump into within minutes. Both multiplayer and singleplayer mode are already implemented, the game is work in progress though and updates will follow. Note that the camera controls are not yet explained in the tutorial. Here is how to control the camera: Camera panning: Hold down right mouse button and drag to move the camera Camera Zoom: Use the mouse wheel to zoom.
  15. CaptainJustin

    Good Game

    Greetings everyone! A few of us are building an in-browser multiplayer game in BabylonJS. It's been fun! The code can be found on Github. If you have someone to play with, visit: The server is in South Africa so it might be a bit laggy depending on where you are. We're looking at building AI for bots and re-skinning the models for the game. * If you are interested in being involved please shout! *


    Here's a multiplayer pk/deathmatch game I've had on the back burner for awhile. There is still more that needs to be done. The project will probably continue to evolve. Thanks for checking it out. PLAYERKILLERS.EXCHANGE
  17. timetocode

    NullEngine and oimo

    I'm attempting to use NullEngine in node.js as a component of the server side simulation for a multiplayer game. When using *just* NullEngine + nengi.js (a multiplayer engine) mesh intersection and rays work great. I can get somewhere in the realm of 50-150 ccu (that's players, not NPCs). The performance is really awesome. Now I'm trying to get some more advanced physics in place. However when I attempt to include OimoJSPlugin on the serverside I get " TypeError: Cannot read property 'World' of undefined " const BABYLON = require('babylonjs') let engine = new BABYLON.NullEngine() let scene = new BABYLON.Scene(engine) let camera = new BABYLON.ArcRotateCamera('Camera', 0, 0.8, 100, BABYLON.Vector3.Zero(), scene) scene.enablePhysics(null, new BABYLON.OimoJSPlugin()) That last line there is the one that throws the error. Any idea what I'm doing wrong? I also get a warning that 'oimo' module cannot be found (related, I presume?). I setup babylon via `npm install babylonjs` (as opposed to downloading something) and the version is 3.2.0. Thanks for reading! And BJS + NullEngine is a dream come true!
  18. I would like to show you the game I am working on: It is a multiplayer shooter 2D (platformer) similar to old games like Liero, Soldat or Worms (a little). Game is written in html5 (Phaser 2) and now has not many features now. Playing: - moving soldier: W, A, S, D (can be changed in settings) - aiming & shoting: mouse (mobile playing is not finished yet) It would be great if you could write me what do you thing about it or maybe what problems do you have with the game.
  19. Hi Guys! I haven't been active here for quite some time and haven't done anything with Babylon.JS for quite a long time. But after checking out the changelogs, I saw that we can now run Babylon.js Server Side, how awesome is that! So I had to squeeze in some time and implement a proof of concept multiplayer simulation with Client and Server side physics engine. It's quite basic. The Client can control a ball by spinning it forward or backward (with W and S). By changing the camera angle (with A and D) you can change the direction of the impulse. With Space you can jump around. To check out how it behaves with multiple players you can either ask someone to also visit the site at the same time or just open a new tab in your browser. Technical it is rather simple. Server and Client communicate via Websockets. The client applies impulses to it's ball, these parameters for these impulses are sent to the server. The server applies these also and keeps the state for the whole world up to date. Each render loop the server sends the current state to all the clients (ideally 60 Hz). The clients then correct the position, direction and velocity of all objects including their own ball if needed. I haven't tried it out with higher delays, but I would suspect the result will be quite "jumpy". Interpolation for correction and prediction of movement is not (yet) implemented. Added Server Update Rate and Ping to see lags and delay in perspective to these metrics. Here is the code: Here is the Demo: Here is a great article about Server-Client Game Networking techniques: which was somewhat the motivation to implement this proof of concept.
  20. Hi everyone, I have been working on another io game, and the first version was completed almost two weeks ago. Here is the link Features: The game is based on mining resources and creating a fleet with the points you collect. Ships auto shoot nearby resources or other ships. Players can buy ships with the resources. On the map, there are 4 health regen areas marked as green on the minimap. Development Notes: I used pixi.js and shockwave filter for explosions Howler.js for spatial audio Communication is in a binary format. The game also works on mobile devices, thanks to pixi.js. There is no client side prediction, everything is calculated on the server. The web server uses node.js for static content. The game server is written in C++ using uWebSockets. Here is a video on my twitter. I would like to hear what you think about this, Thanks!
  21. I created and did too much hard work to polish it, in hope that you like it : ) is a remake of classic battleship game who's origin is from world war 1. Arrange your ships and get into battle. Your main goal is to sink all 10 ships of enemy before he sink yours. First one to sink all ships will win the battle. Currently It's single player but I'm working on it's multiplayer version in which you'll be able to play with your friends or with any random person. I really need your precious feedback so please take some time to give it. THANKS FOR READING
  22. STEIN.WORLD Link: About: is a MMO Role-Playing Game you can play right in your browser. You can play as a lone wolf or in a group of friends to explore the fantasy world of Stein. Complete quests and fight against monsters to level up and compete in the rankings of our dungeons. In the game you start as a character who wakes up after a night of heavy drinking, in which he has lost his family stein (beer mug). To get this precious item back you start to explore the world to find clues where your stein could be. In the progress you gear up, complete hundreds of quests and fight in dungeons like the Cygluln Chambers where waves of enemies await you. How to Play: Register on the page and start playing right away. Move your character around with typical "WASD" or Arrow Key movement. Interact with objects or NPCs by pressing "E". Change the orientation of your character and aim ranged attacks with your mouse. If you don't like any of the default configurations, just change them in the options window. Features: - Persistent fantasy world - Hundreds of quests with many different objectives - Hundreds of Items - Millions of Equipment variations - Group function - Wave Dungeons - Ranking System Upcoming Features: - Professions system (gathering and crafting) - Dungeons - Guild system - Bossfights - Friendlist - Mounts & Pets - PvP system (battlegrounds and open world pvp) - Housing with farming
  23. Hey guys, As the title say, we're looking to buy .IO/multiplayer html5 games from game devs who abandoned their games or are looking to sell their game. Game must be good quality, bandwidth optimized, and we need to have access to Google analytics to see all the stats of the game before the purchase. We pay up to 5000$ depending on the quality of the game/stats. Please send us your games by PM / add us on Skype.
  24. Hello there, I'm the author of Colyseus, and I'm having a high demand for multiplayer games. I'll need someone to help me out with client-side development by May. I'll be responsible for back-end development, and will support you on the client-side as well. If you're interested, please fill out this form: Cheers! Endel
  25. ddabrahim

    Hosting multiplayer games?

    Hi. I'm currently developing a single player game in Phaser and occurred to me to make it online multiplayer instead but I would prefer not to run my own server and wondering what solutions are out there for hosting online multiplayer games? I searched the web and did come across 4 solutions. PlayerIO, AppWarp, Photon and using platforms like Heroku and Amazon.... At the moment I'm more likely go with PlayerIO because the pricing is better, the free package allow me to get started with no obligations and the paid packages also seems cheap compared to other hosts but I would like to get some feedback if it any good or not, should I consider using something else? I would be grateful for any opinion on this or even links to articles I could learn something from. Thank you.