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#1 mikandi

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Posted 11 October 2013 - 10:36 PM

Hi, my name is Jesse Adams, co-founder of mikandi.com (warning:site is very NSFW), the largest adult app store for Android. We just announced the first third party Chrome app store for adults at mikandi.com/mint (also very NSFW). For the past year, adult games has been in our top three requests for our mobile app store and the adult game category is the most searched on our website. With our push into HTML5, we'd love to connect with folks who are creating or interested in developing adult html5 games (essentially rated M or X).

 

I'm aware that most html5 game sites and tools appeal to a mainstream audience, which means the adult game category is in it's infancy and basically pushed to the back alleyways :) But it's our vision to grow an awesome html5 adult game community and feature them front and center. We're open to discussing collaborations, commissioning games, joining affiliate programs of existing adult games, etc. So if this sounds fun and exciting to you, please email me at mintlist@mikandi.com

 

cheers!

 

Jesse Adams

 

 


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Posted 12 October 2013 - 06:47 PM

Wow I had no idea this kind of market existed, but I guess that's silly of me really because I'm sure you've got lots of Flash games on your site for example? How does it normally work for those games? Do you pay developers to build them or license them or whatever?


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Posted 12 October 2013 - 11:13 PM

Hi Rich,

 

Yup, there's a ton of adult flash games, but as you know, they don't work on mobile. That's why we're pretty excited about the progress of HTML5 for game development. Some folks have tried to port these flash games by using native wrappers to quickly turn them into Android apps, but they turn out horribly. Developers should just move away from flash, but also these games were originally designed with mouse clicks in mind, so they need to be redesigned for touch screens.

 

Currently most adult flash games are offered free to play with the purpose of driving traffic to a subscription site where more games and premium videos are available or a trial version is offered, with the full version available only after subscribing. In some cases, studios will commission these games, especially when the game designer or artist is well known and they are looking for high quality. Other flash game developers will essentially sign up as affiliates of these sites and churn out simpler games at a faster rate to drive more traffic and sales taking around 50-60% rev-share on signups they generate. 

 

On mobile, developers who publish their own adult android games take 65% revshare of app sales or in-app purchases. Others integrate with our adult-focused ad network and monetize with ads, but if you have to generate a considerable number of installs before this can generate meaningful revenue.  We're also working on our offerwall program (currently in beta with a few developers), where users can earn in-app content  (i.e. unlock new game levels) by downloading other adult apps (developer gets paid for every free app download generated through the offerwall). This converts very well since users can earn premium content without using their credit cards.

 

So we're looking to explore several options in the beginning stages. We can either commission games and just buy upfront. Or if the developer wants longer-term rev-share, publish the games themselves, but we still want to help during the development process and of course marketing/distribution. For example, hentai is one of our top search terms, but we generated 30,000 unique search terms last month, so we can provide great insight into what people are looking to buy. We also drive a ton of downloads through our featured sections (about a million app downloads a month) and through app of the week push notification promotions. In addition, we can help with some coding especially with integrating in-app billing APIs, ads, etc.  Or for developers who aren't artists, we can collaborate and provide all the custom art assets and/or adult videos and photo content. For more involved collaborations like this, we would ask for 50/50 rev-share. Essentially we want to take a very hands-on approach to build some great partnerships and grow this market. Thanks for asking!



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Posted 12 October 2013 - 11:20 PM

Thanks for the detailed answer. It's not really a market I'd care to enter myself (conflicts massively with our regular client base) but I'm really impressed with how open you are at discussing how the business side of it works here. You don't get that kind of transparency from most companies! :)


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Posted 12 October 2013 - 11:26 PM

thanks, I appreciate it. Transparency is best :)


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Posted 13 October 2013 - 08:28 PM

Thanks for sharing. I was always interested in entering adult games market, since I've got pretty wild imagination and all this stuff is like a second nature to me.

What types of games are you guys interested in? Quick viral flicks only? What about games with some additional depth, like adventures or even story-powered action games, centered around sex and drive? Do you consider funding complete development (milestone-based)?


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Posted 14 October 2013 - 04:01 PM

Do you have some sample games? I'm interested in entering this market, especially producing hentai content.


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Posted 14 October 2013 - 04:07 PM

Just to add that if anyone wants to share links for games of this nature they have made, please could you do it via PMs/email and not post them to this board, thanks.


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Posted 14 October 2013 - 04:13 PM

spoilsport ;)



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Posted 14 October 2013 - 05:54 PM

There are some things it's not worth corrupting your Google search ranking for :)


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Posted 15 October 2013 - 02:07 AM

Thanks for sharing. I was always interested in entering adult games market, since I've got pretty wild imagination and all this stuff is like a second nature to me.

What types of games are you guys interested in? Quick viral flicks only? What about games with some additional depth, like adventures or even story-powered action games, centered around sex and drive? Do you consider funding complete development (milestone-based)?

 

Hi Vincent,

 

We love wild imaginations! :) Because the market is so new, we're looking to explore different game concepts, but if you have certain ideas that you're more passionate about, we can definitely help you narrow it down and provide some tips. Just PM me here or send me an email to mintlist@mikandi.com and we can pick up the conversation there. For example top search terms are hentai, asian, and other words that I shouldn't mention here :) but also niches like tranny, boobs, amateur or game types like puzzles, strip, interactive comics, virtual sims, etc. 

So when it comes to adult games, here's how we think about them:

 

1. Eye candy - More visually stimulating than anything else, like the quick viral flicks you mention. You interact with different objects, characters, scenes, etc, but essentially you're enjoying the view. we have some examples of these now such as simulation games where you have a virtual girl you can interact with using different props. 

 

2. Story and reward based adult games - Follow typical game structure, where there is a story, rules, clear objectives and rewards. In our world, rewards can be sexy animations, characters, props, new scenes, videos. So your story-powered action games  sounds awesome already!

 

Now some folks will take simple mainstream game templates, such as poker, and then offer a sexy photo as reward for winning a play. This has been done often, BUT very rarely is it done well, so I think there is a lot of opportunity here to do better. Especially if this is your first adult HTML5 game or game in general. I think it's great to get a head start by looking at winning mainstream game concepts, but rethink/redesign with an adult story (instead of just throwing in adult photos as an after-thought).

 

3. Social, multiplayer games - At this early stage in the market, I would hold back from attacking any game idea that requires synchronous game play. In other words, make sure player doesn't necessarily have to respond back to another online player right away for the game to work.

 

I can say that amateur photo and video sharing apps are super popular. People love sharing themselves and checking out other people, so games that feed into this interest would be exciting to explore for an adult social game.

 

We do consider funding whole games, but keep in mind, if that's the case we would want to own the game completely.  Having said that, we are leaning towards collaborations and/or only funding partially so that game maker keeps some rev-share, so that 1)they are motivated to update the game with new content and fix bugs and 2)we can help foster a variety of great games targeting several niches.  It really depends on the project and the experience of the game maker.

 

Lastly, html5 adult games are just getting started, so I would recommend keeping first games super simple, but polished and high quality. It's that last 10% of development that most people rush, but it makes a huge difference.


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Posted 15 October 2013 - 02:08 AM

spoilsport ;)

 

 

There are some things it's not worth corrupting your Google search ranking for :)

Ha! we're keeping it classy. :)

 

mentuat, got your message, thanks, I'll get back to you tonight.



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Posted 15 October 2013 - 02:15 AM

Do you have some sample games? I'm interested in entering this market, especially producing hentai content.

As far HTML5 games, not really. most of the games we have now are flash games ported as Android Apps (but again those pretty much suck) or they are native android games. The hentai examples we have are games such as stripper games, where girls/guys dress down and do different acts depending on how well you play or simple puzzle games. there's also the popular dating sim type games from Japan where you have to choose the correct response to progress further. These dating games were originally designed for PC screens though, so the buttons and overall presentation is just way too small for mobile. Alot of room for improvement here. I'll send some links privately.



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Posted 15 October 2013 - 07:04 AM

mikandi, thanks for your quite detailed reply!

I have a couple of fresh story-driven concepts floating around, so I'm looking forward to contacting you in the near future once I get them fleshed out.



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Posted 15 October 2013 - 10:28 AM

mikandi, thanks for your quite detailed reply!

I have a couple of fresh story-driven concepts floating around, so I'm looking forward to contacting you in the near future once I get them fleshed out.

great looking forward to it.



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Posted 25 March 2014 - 12:02 AM

One developer of whom I'm aware is Chaotic who has a number of virtual dating games.

A huge challenge is educating the Adult Interactive Fiction community of the power of HTML5. They believe video and even sound is impossible! This with Apple, Microsoft, and Android killing of Flash support as much as possible!

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Posted 27 March 2014 - 10:23 PM

One developer of whom I'm aware is Chaotic who has a number of virtual dating games.

A huge challenge is educating the Adult Interactive Fiction community of the power of HTML5. They believe video and even sound is impossible! This with Apple, Microsoft, and Android killing of Flash support as much as possible!

Cool, let Chaotic know. :)  

Yup, I think the best way to educate them is to just create some awesome example games. We're working on some now and hope to share later this year.



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Posted 28 March 2014 - 08:46 AM

@mikandi This is great. I always wanted to make a Hentai game... I could start working on something in middle of next month.

 

Reminds me of NHK (anime) :D


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Posted 03 April 2014 - 05:50 PM

@mikandi This is great. I always wanted to make a Hentai game... I could start working on something in middle of next month.

 

Reminds me of NHK (anime) :D

awesome



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Posted 15 September 2014 - 09:32 PM

I would be interested in those kinds of productions.

 

I'm a 2D graphist and 2D game dev.

 

(With a bit of culture regarding porn industry, eh)






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