tranlong021988 Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 hi, I'm building my first game with BJS , til now this is what I get https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/86585940/BabylonWave/index.html Yesterday I figure out some solutions to overcome problems with collision, thank you everybody who helped me. Today, I 'm facing some new problems, may be not serious problems but I need your advise: In my game, you can see a jet ski with sea (using Water Material), but for performance (my target platform is mobile with Intel Crosswalk runtime), I want to optimize as best as I can, these are my approach: - using low poly model. - not use shadow/light/specular, just use simple diffuse texture map. - try using LOD, but it seem not affect to much, may be caused by low poly model already. - try something about camera culling but not yet find out any document with BJS. (I want the big island appear only with camera nearby). - And everything seem push my game art look like "toon", it's good, but I can not make Water Material to be "toon". I have view sample about Cell Shading but don't know how to apply it to current Water Material. So anybody can give me some advise ? Sorry for my poor English. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingnut Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Hi T. I think you have presented a good puzzle. Cel Shading is cool... I like it. I am a big fan of Archer TV show, and they do "cartoonize"... but they call it "Archerize". It is a blending of 3D and cel, as you describe. Sorry for low responses. Possibly, @NasimiAsl can help us. He is a pro shader-master. Btw, though sensitive, I LOVE what up and down cursor do in your wave-runner game. You can move camera far above, or be ON the wave runner, or even go beneath it and get wet. The splashes look quite good. The whole game looks quite good. I hope we get to jump-over little islands soon. Looks like great fun! Do you know what 3D "ragdoll" is? You might need those... for surfers that get hit by wave runners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NasimiAsl Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 i think water material on BJS is good if you wanna more optimization you most remove some effects and this need a PG or any test Page for start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NasimiAsl Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 http://www.babylonjs-playground.com/#1TYWYB#28 http://www.babylonjs-playground.com/#1TYWYB#29 http://www.babylonjs-playground.com/#1TYWYB#31 i made this but don't have mirror texture adam, Wingnut, Boz and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GameMonetize Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 This is insanely cool NasimiAsl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NasimiAsl Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 i am not insane : may be a little http://www.babylonjs-playground.com/#1TYWYB#46 Wingnut 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingnut Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 I agree. But, we have @tranlong021988 issues to deal-with. I'm no shader guy, but... guys... is the mesh in Naz's demos... changing shape at all? Or are we being fooled into thinking it is.... by its material? Or, what? (I'm not too bright, eh?). In order to get Cannon's meshImposter to activate so Tran can wave-jump with the jet ski, it has to be a real moving mesh. I think Naz mentioned this, somewhere... can't rem where. Shaders don't really reshape mesh, do they? They only fool us into thinking they do, right? errr? (I feel so noob right now, but I am, when it comes to shaders.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NasimiAsl Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 i work on a picking system we can pick any vertex shader changing it means may be we can make physics engine for shader vertex states i do it in http://melyon.ir go in the sea and you see you float on sea and all collision use with this new picking system i try to optimize that maybe we can move all we need in gpu side . Wingnut 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tranlong021988 Posted May 4, 2016 Author Share Posted May 4, 2016 On 4/30/2016 at 9:34 PM, Wingnut said: Hi T. I think you have presented a good puzzle. Cel Shading is cool... I like it. I am a big fan of Archer TV show, and they do "cartoonize"... but they call it "Archerize". It is a blending of 3D and cel, as you describe. Sorry for low responses. Possibly, @NasimiAsl can help us. He is a pro shader-master. Btw, though sensitive, I LOVE what up and down cursor do in your wave-runner game. You can move camera far above, or be ON the wave runner, or even go beneath it and get wet. The splashes look quite good. The whole game looks quite good. I hope we get to jump-over little islands soon. Looks like great fun! Do you know what 3D "ragdoll" is? You might need those... for surfers that get hit by wave runners. I love your idea about ragdoll and island jumping over, but unfortunately this game logic is just simple since my target is mobile device (Intel Crosswalk wrapper). Many complex stuff can make it low FPS so til now, I just need jet ski move ahead and get over small islands to destination(big island), and, on mobile, it will be support Google Cardboard with VR render (thank to VRDeviceOrientationFreeCamera). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tranlong021988 Posted May 4, 2016 Author Share Posted May 4, 2016 On 4/30/2016 at 11:43 PM, NasimiAsl said: i think water material on BJS is good if you wanna more optimization you most remove some effects and this need a PG or any test Page for start Til now, I just remove almost reflection (but Skybox) , using some photoshop trick to make Skybox and water bump map look "cartoon" and can not do anything more. I also think about animation texture (with floating foam) instead using Water Material. About Shader programming. I don't know how compatible it make to mobile target. Is it using GPU for rendering ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NasimiAsl Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 yes it all do in GPu and you can test PG demos in Mobile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tranlong021988 Posted May 4, 2016 Author Share Posted May 4, 2016 thank you, I will do some test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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